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Great discussion, Simon, and I love how the comments reflect the many other issues that we might look at in addition to animal cruelty, like worker treatment, the distinction between industrial meat production and the responsible inclusion of biodiversity including animals in a holistic farming system. I used to put that "V" for vegan on the wines that I produced, but stopped after working in vineyards. As someone who has a soft spot for animals that often get referred to as "pests" - like voles, ground squirrels, gophers, rats, mice, and the entire realm of rodents really - I can say it is the extremely rare exception in wine or any other kind of farming that is able to produce a crop without disrupting the habitats, and often killing, many animals of some kind. If we're honest, I think the choice isn't between veganism and omnivorous diets, its between direct and indirect slaughter of many forms of life in order to produce our food and wine. I say this as someone who supports plant-focused diets both for health and ecological reasons. But I think it's important that we understand that we don't get away from the moral implications of killing animals even by being strict vegans.

Another point I'd bring up: when you come to appreciate plants as sentient beings, veganism begins to seem to make arbitrary distinctions between what really is just the continuum of life in various forms. I love and value my green relatives as much as my animal and bird relatives, and I don't see a moral difference in mistreating or eating one over the other. With this perspective, I think it's about our attitude and gratitude and the respect and love with which we approach the reality that life feeds on life, that we are all constantly transforming the energy of life into different forms. A great book about this is Nourishment by Fred Provenza.

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Really enjoyed this article, appreciate your take and efforts to give a balanced take here. I'm a vegan, though I write a wine blog and do not let it get in the way of the choices of wine I drink, and I also make exceptions situationally, like when traveling, so by no means am I the strictest form, but that said I'll give you my take here. Most vegans I know are not eliminating animal products from their diets and other life choices (like wearing leather or buying wool sweaters) because they want to be extremist or preach some radical views. They do it because they want to do the most they can to prevent animal cruelty or exploitation, and in many cases they do it because of its impact on the environment. Those who do aim to drink vegan wine do it in the spirit of those ideas, so as Chris mentioned below about insects in the press, it would be akin to stopping walking because you might step on an ant -- it tends not to factor into the equation for most people. I found it interesting that your biggest gripe with veganism as a concept is related to sustainability when animal agriculture is one of the most environmentally destructive industries and is largely responsible for the decline in biodiversity we're seeing on a large and rapid scale today. Yes, bees are pollinators (I personally don't have an issue with honey or beeswax), but so are most flying insects, and most pollination isn't on account of honey bees. Pollinators en masse are dying off as a direct result of habitat destruction for animal agriculture. Deforestation to clear space for feed crops like soy is driven almost entirely by livestock production (for example, almost all of the crops grown in places like the Amazon where forest is cleared to plant it is fed to livestock, not people), and the majority of water diverted from major fresh water sources in the US (e.g., the Colorado river, which is rapidly running dry) is also used for animal agriculture, not human food crops. So it is very difficult to argue that veganism isn't inherently more sustainable as a whole. It's not black and white, but on the issue of sustainability there is a very clear winner.

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